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reform didn't spend any money attacking him. bill clinton ran millions of dollars of ads attacking him for breaking his pledge. so since the pledge is a public piece of information, the press goes after you if you break the pledge, your local voters go after you, your democratic opponent calls you a fibber. the pledge is self-enforcing. if i went and became a tibetan monk on the top of some mountain somewhere, the american people would still -- they were against tax increases long before i was born. the whole tea party thing predates me. so harry reid is -- misunderstands. the american people don't want taxes raised. they realize spending problem s the problem and needs to come down. tax increases get in the way of spending restraint. >> steven moore, i don't know if grover is the most powerful unelected man in washington or the most polarizing. a lot of people don't like him. you've defended him. herewhat he said and where i take issue. he said increases taxes avoids the conversation on having the spending discussion. and i said i don't think that's causal. i think we can all agree we
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